Posts by Saltheart Foamfollower

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Just out of curiosity, how many elders (current & ex) do we have here?

by mrquik in

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me.

Saltheart Foamfollower

I'm another one currently "serving" as an elder, though doing my own thing as much as I can get away with without being caught.

The (not so) pure one

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Who is the FDS class from midweek meeting....last night

by Legacy in

last night we had our midweek meeting.

the bible reading was from "who is doing jehovah's will....the part where they asked who was the fds.

i thought because of the past sept. wt, every hand would go up....all you heard were crickets.

I conducted the study this week and took delight in referring to FDS as a class - printed copies still call it that, but the word class has been removed from the online version. It's amazing how quickly out of date a brochure from last year has become - the schools mentioned a couple of weeks ago (and repeated in this weekends WT study) being another example.

The (not so) Pure One

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ELDERS STEPPING DOWN

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between two congregations that i know of four elders have stepped down in the last two months!

there is something really going on in this mandmade organization!

it's busting at the seams!.

Saltheart Foamfollower

I've observed the same thing - elders want to step down because they are sick of all the politics (they don't phrase it like that obviously) and are then "persuaded" to keep going because they are needed. This is probably true because getting younger ones to "reach out" seems to be getting harder.

On a related thought - anyone ever heard of an elder removed for incompetence?

The (not so) pure one

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New bible, any changes to scriptures regarding blood??

by baltar447 in

i'm kind of interested to see if there's any changes to scriptures that the borg uses to support the blood doctrine?.

Saltheart Foamfollower

Acts 15:29 hasn't changed apart from removing two "and"s - commas added instead.

the (not so) pure one

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Oh the irony

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i've just noticed that the text for the day after the annual meeting is "be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheeps covering.matt.

7:15" - i'm sure someone can think of something witty to say.. i think that since the 90's generation change caused such an exodus, the gb have been preparing the way quite carefully before revealing new truths - eg acts book calling first century governing body, modern day governing body prepares for elevation of current gb as per recent watchtower.

now that pre 1919 has effectively been jetisoned, i think that they will eventually ditch 1914 and move last days up to knorr's day.

Saltheart Foamfollower

I've just noticed that the text for the day after the Annual Meeting is "Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheep’s covering.—Matt. 7:15" - I'm sure someone can think of something witty to say.
I think that since the 90's generation change caused such an exodus, the GB have been preparing the way quite carefully before revealing new truths - eg Acts book calling first century governing body, modern day Governing Body prepares for elevation of current GB as per recent watchtower. Now that pre 1919 has effectively been jetisoned, I think that they will eventually ditch 1914 and move last days up to Knorr's day. Not yet though. Maybe there will be something changed about Revelation trumpet blasts or Kings of North/South. All they need to use is their current magic word - "evidently" which they seem to think allows them to state whatever they want without any evidence - pretty much the opposite of what it really means.

the (not so) pure one

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DVD at elders meeting during circuit visit

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

has anyone had a circuit visit this week and seen the dvd for elders/mss?

i'm guessing it's got an introduction from one of the gb and then demonstrations of how to behave in different situations.

i'd like to be prepared before seeing it to ask suitable questions.. the (not so) pure one.

Saltheart Foamfollower

If I've heard correctly it is exactly the same as the videos shown at the last elders school except the co pauses it and it is discussed. The length of the meeting probably depends on him. I'm planning on keeping my mouth closed so that the meeting doesn't go on too long!

the (not so) pure one

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DVD at elders meeting during circuit visit

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

has anyone had a circuit visit this week and seen the dvd for elders/mss?

i'm guessing it's got an introduction from one of the gb and then demonstrations of how to behave in different situations.

i'd like to be prepared before seeing it to ask suitable questions.. the (not so) pure one.

Saltheart Foamfollower

Has anyone had a circuit visit this week and seen the dvd for elders/Mss? I'm guessing it's got an introduction from one of the GB and then demonstrations of how to behave in different situations. I'd like to be prepared before seeing it to ask suitable questions.

The (not so) pure one

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Does Bethel etc close on public/bank holidays?

by ThomasCovenant in

does printing and administrative work carry on as normal throughout the year without regard to christmas, new year, public and bank holidays in the various bethel premises throughout the world?.

it is a bank holiday tomorrow in most of the uk so will london bethel be working as normal?

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Saltheart Foamfollower

The London Bethel printing press used to be shut down for maintenance on bank holidays so that the noise wouldn't upset the neighbours. The rest have to work as normal - not much fun.

The (not so) pure one

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Jehovah's Witness whose wife died after refusing blood transfusion is jailed for 13 years over child sex abuse covered up by religion's elders

by ThomasCovenant in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400938/jehovahs-witness-wife-died-refusing-blood-transfusion-jailed-13-years-child-sex-abuse-covered-religions-elders.html .

a jehovah's witness who sexually abused a child and then had his wrongdoing covered up by the church has been jailed for 13 years.. gordon leighton, 53, admitted sexually abusing a child when he was confronted with the allegations by church elders at washington, tyne and wear.. the elders knew about the 53-year-old's admissions for three years but refused to co-operate with the criminal investigation, and said what they had heard was confidential.. leighton hit the headlines in the 1990s when his wife yvonne, 28, died after refusing a blood transfusion after childbirth on religious grounds.judge penny moreland said that he had subjected his victim to 'untold damage' as she sentenced him at newcastle crown court today.. the judge said: 'you manipulated her with a combination of affection and attention and violence and threats.

'the defendant was found guilty of two charges of indecency with a child and six of indecent assault after a trial.

Saltheart Foamfollower

A letter was sent to all congregations in nearby circuits instructing (not asking) elders to refuse to comment if approached by press etc. Nothing was said about how to handle householders who might have read the papers.

The (not so) pure one

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WT Study for 2013/08/18 Jehovah's Generosity

by Bobcat in

for those who consider the wt study:.

there is an interesting distortion in this wt lesson.

paragraphs 4 - 8 form a sub-topic entitled "jehovah is generous.".

Saltheart Foamfollower

So if all faithful ones were blessed, why were some so poor they could only afford some flour?

The (not so) pure one